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d.c. and we'll see you on gretawire.com in seconds. right? seconds. that should be fun. all right, everybody. "the five." >> dana: i'm dana perino with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: we begin tonight with breaking news overseas. sixth straight day of fight in the middle east, israel continues to defend itself bombing new targets in the gaza strip. terrorists launched more than 1,000 rockets in to israel since last wednesday. president obama has been working with world leaders to diffuse the crisis. fox's david lee miller is live in southern israel with the latest on the conflict. david? >> reporter: at this hour, top ministry in israel are meeting behind closed doors to
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discuss a post-cease-fire agreement. as they continue to talk, the bloodshed continues. in the past if hours, israel continued to attack sites in gazsites ingaza. in total they targeted 1400 sites. among them, a stadium, a sports stadium where the israelis said hamas militants were launching rockets to israel. among the other targets, the media center where they say the militants were using communications facilities to get in touch with people on the ground. in total, more than 100 palestinians have been killed. half of them civilians. among them 1 11 civilians. all of them from the same family. most women and children killed from a single airstrike over the weekend. israel says the strike was the result of targeting the home of a rocket mastermind who was working for the militants. meanwhile, the militants in gaza continue to fire rockets in to israel. today, more than 100 rockets
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were launched. almost half of them were intercepted by the iron dome missile defense system here. nevertheless, two schools were hit. the results could have been catastrophic. but the classes were not in session because of the ongoing conflict. notably there were no rockets launched headed in the direction of tel aviv. lastly, over my shoulder in the distance, you can take a look. see the iron dome system here in southern israel. five batteries throughout the country. when there are rockets fired, this missile defense system is operated. i hold in my hand, this is something you very rarely get a chance to take a look at this. is what is left of one of the interceptor missiles. this fell to the ground after a hit. a rocket, that was fired from gaza. what you can see are a number of cameras and great deal of electronics. sophisticated piece of equipment. the missile costs $40,000.
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the israelis say it has saved not only millions of dollars in damage, but also countless lives. back to you. >> dana: all right. david lee miller, thank you for update from the region. eric get to you first. you have been looking at this. you a map. >> eric: take the telestrator. this is very important. david lee pointed things out. here is what is going on. israel put a flotilla barricade up so no arms could come in west bank. sorry, in the gaza strip via the water. what is happening is the arms are coming through egypt in tunnels. coming literally through the country of egypt. the problem is they are coming from iran. in to egypt. in to the tums and in the gaza strip. they are shot from gaza to tel aviv. david lee mentioned today, but tell avive has seen missiles and jerusalem here, tel aviv here. the missiles are going this way. the issue here, this is hamas. hamas is a terrorist organization who are targeting population, civilian population centers within
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israel. that's why israel is retaliating with so many strikes back to the gaza strip. hezbollah and palestinians are more than willing to violate some geneva act, war crimes targeting the civilians. >> dana: they will. we want bob's take on this. first, listen to president obama who said america does stand with israel. >> there is no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders. so we are fully supportive of israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes. >> dana: that is president obama. of course, the leader of israel has words to say as well. listen to him. >> i hope that hamas and the other terror organizations in gaza got the message. if not, israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our
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people. >> dana: so president obama, bob, saying that america would be standing with israel. although, signal that a ground offensive in gaza would not be welcome or supported. netanyahu knows that international p.r. efforts, that there is a limit to how much people can take. we saw some of the pictures. why now do you think this is happening with hamas? >> bob: a couple of reasons. hamas is testing the obama administration and testing the muslim brotherhood egypt now the center of the negotiations for diplomacy, of which they know nothing about. the other two is turkey and qatar. it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a
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negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a long-term commitment by gaza not to launch missiles. >> dana: andrea, that issue of a long-term situation or solving it quickly. hamas and netanyahu said we don't want a short-term solution. we want something more lasting. that would include something that both sides say they won't do. from your per speculative, you were talking earlier in morning about the timing of it. when you get a second term as a president, and second terms are usually filled with foreign policy. this is the first test of the second obama administration. >> andrea: right. a lot of people are looking at the timing and they are speculating. there is no proof of this. but they are speculating why after the enext? was there some kind of deal cut? i read on a blog by netanyahu. it will let you have peace and then i'll fight back after the election. i'll tell you, this has been going on for a long time. israel faced five wars to protect itself. every time it's won.
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i am not sure you can't look at this without looking at president obama's statement. may 19, 2011, he said the starting point for may negotiation should be '67 borders. this is not something that israel wants at all. it was a willing sign to palestinians and the arab world, listen, go get them. i would say it predates '67 and goes to 1948. that is when israel got independence. i agree with israel, they should do everything they can to protect themselves. believe me, they don't want this war. they don't want violence. >> dana: let's get greg in here about the media. if i could play a sound bite from ralph peters who was on earlier with megyn kelly. take a look. >> hamas hamas is very, very goo at the propaganda side for several reasons. one, they hide behind human shields. they shoot rockets from playgrounds. they put quarterbac headquarters
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under hospitals. there are civilian casualties. it's tragic. but hamas welcomes that as an effective tool of warfare, because they know the hostile to israel global media will just beat that up. >> dana: greg, from the media perspective, what do you think? >> greg: what year is this? 2012. i can't tell if it's 2012, 1992, 1982ers 1972. the middle east turmoil, unrest. it's just there. will be there forever. i'm so used to it now. in this case, however, this is a proxy war between the united states and iran. the thing i love about the global left. they prefer the fundamentalist mullahs so they hate america. they're thugs but because america is -- israel represents america it's okay. civilian deaths. ralph peters is correct to point out that is media ca catnip.
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can i keep going? i was sitting here quiet for a while. i'm tired of hearing the word "negotiation" in all of this. when a guy starts bombing you and you have to negotiate to get them to stop bombing, that reasoning a mugging is also a negotiation over your wallet. it makes no sense. for a president, i sympathize with president obama. it's like running in to an old acquaintance on the street you avoid eye contact because when you talk to them, you can't get out of the conversation. that is the middle east. once you get involved in the conversation, you can't get out of it. i see president obama trying to avoid eye contact as much as possible. it fear that this is not about israel. this is about iran and the united states. and a large war that is comin coming. >> eric: bob, i have to correct you on something. my good friend, you are brilliant and you have been around a long time. hamas is not testing the muslim brotherhood. hamas is outshoot of the muslim brotherhood. they are part of the muslim brotherhood. that's why they have a map up there -- take a look again. the most important part of the
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map is the border between the gaza strip an egypt right there, because mohammed morsi right now from the muslim brotherhood has a choice to make. will he cut off the arms that are supplied in the gaza strip through egypt? or will he not? will he continue to let iran play in israel's backyard with their rockets? the choice is his. >> bob: exactly why hamas is testing the muslim brotherhood to see if they will go ahead or enter in diplomacy. every negotiation in peace treaty started with the 1967 the argument here from hamas' stand point is egypt going to stand with them or with the international community? egypt has always been in forefront of negotiating the peace treaties. 'canes is the first time -- >> dana: is the first time an eruption has happened since arab spring in egypt. >> andrea: look back to history a lot of the wars that egypt fought was with israel. mubarak. mubarak was an ally of israel. people forget that. now because we have told him
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to step down and he left, we now have the muslim brotherhood in. egypt is not a friend of israel. netanyahu is looking at this going wait a minute. to your point, we are supposed to negotiate with hamas. a terrorist organization? israel is going to broker -- >> bob: am i ever going to convince you that the united states did not order mubarak to get out of power? 1.5 million people in the middle of the country. >> andrea: egypt is now against israel. >> dana: last word to greg. >> greg: i am tired of the occupier argument. this person occupied that. every one, at one point was an occupier. before "the five," there was beck. before beck, there was john gibson. tech flick we are occupying john gibson hour. i see him in the hallway and we get along great. >> eric: this is the united states state department. do you see what this is? number seven down the list, that is hamas. it's under the category of foreign terrorist organizatio
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organizations. >> bob: that is something new. >> dana: we have been talking about middle east peace for decades. we are going to go. and then come back with new information on who changed susan rice's talking points before she went to five sunday shows to talk about the terrorist attack in benghazi? greg has that. later, don't miss greg's cooking segment. that is ahead on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: so it looks like the white house changed the talking points that called the attack in benghazi the work of al-qaeda. the tiny edit they made. al-qaeda reference became act of extremism to fed in the spontaneous mob narrative, that thanks to susan rice spread like an office cold. from there, more people died. we know who pushed the video i think. now the question is >> i and will they tell us? they are trying hard not to. this is an administration suffering from wordophobia.
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fear of using language to accurately describe stuff. they consider fort hood massacre a workplace violence, which is calling ted bundy a bad boyfriend. video cause spontaneous upset is euphemism for what we call terror. you heard of double speak. this is triple speak to confuse the listener and hide unpleasant facts. this isn't a george orwell book and four americans are dead. why the latest example of obama speak? timing. al-qaeda attack before the election, that is like a jerk throwing up in the punch bowl. the whole obama destroying al-qaeda story becomes shakier than ikeea bookcase. so let's blame amateur video maker. in plain language it's a coverup. the president talks about how great education is, he is the great unlearner. i get dumber every time i hear him, which is why the more he talks the more i understand him. all right, bob. all right.
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we know who did it now. >> bob: who is that? >> greg: the guy, the person who pushed the video. we now know. >> bob: who is it in >> greg: i thought you were going say who it was. it's the white house. yes, it was. >> bob: no. it was not the white house. what happened here, by the way, the attacks on susan rice are disgraceful. >> greg: oh, please. >> bob: disgusting by a degenerate group of people in the senate who have no right to do this. >> greg: you a hero to women everywhere, bob. the help you have done for women, especially eastern european women. great for you. >> bob: is that necessary? >> greg: no. >> bob: what happened here, the c.i.a. put in the talking points and they mentioned, said it was al-qaeda. it was not al-qaeda. al-qaeda they named the adopted. leaving it aside, in the meaning of the various department of the united states government who are responsible for this, somebody took it out. when it went to the white house talking points that did not have al-qaeda in there,be or the terrorist organization. somebody was looking to defend
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obama before the election. i understand that. i don't know who that was. but that doesn't make susan rice any different. she was given talking points and she knew nothing different about that. >> andrea: bob, just admitted that somebody omitted the term "al-qaeda" to help barack obama before the election? >> bob: part of that is al-qaeda doesn't exist. it's a ridiculous -- >> andrea: save that clip. i think we need to use it over and over again. it was political appointees who took it out. we knew that. it wouldn't be a good storyline if somehow before an election on 9/11 country was attacked. it's not just that. it's not just what they should be finding out about, who pushed the video. buff find out why the embassy or the consulate was not secured when it had had been attacked twice before and the british embassy had been attacked and they requested more security green green berets and they pulled out the green berets. nobody can answer that. >> bob: let me make a point. 9/11, al-qaeda was international organization. well funded and organized. today is something south of a
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california gang war. >> eric: that is not fair to say. >> bob: it is, true. it is. >> greg: l.a. gangs? >> bob: what would you say about it? >> eric: because it splintered off to cells and it doesn't fall under one man's rule. that being made it's weaker or not more vast? there is an argument to be made it's in yemen, it's in libyan, lebanon. it might be bigger than it was on 9/11 of 2001. >> bob: a lot of terrorist organizations -- >> eric: let's get back to the topic. why white house scrubbed al-qaeda from -- >> bob: they didn't scrub it. >> eric: whatever they did. the white house -- >> bob: they didn't do it. >> eric: two questions. number one, why did they do it? i disagree. i don't think they did it because of an attack on american soil prior to election is bad thing. go to las vegas the day after four americans are dead or in the hours of aftermath of four americans dying, isn't good. a and there is no way to cover that up. >> greg: fair point.
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>> eric: number two, you guys may not agree with me even on the right, why did general petraeus -- i just can't figure out why petraeus with his own talking points, and they went with the other. >> andrea: no evidence for a video. >> greg: he had other things on his mind. >> dana: is there any doubt what the white house storyline would have been and what the talking points would have been had they prevented the attack and disrupted it? then would the leaks about the national security and disrupting the attack from al-qaeda -- they called it al-qaeda when they disrupted the underwear bomber and he came from the same area. i assume that is still al-qaeda. there is a simple way to find this out. if president obama wanted. to he tells his chief of staff, round up the top -- i want to know who sent this. get this out in the open. i want it done by 3:00 tomorrow. believe me, it could get done if they wanted it to. but they don't. >> andrea: so obvious there was never any evidence for a video. the c.i.a. originally said it was terror. why or how did they get a story about a video, i have no
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idea. >> bob: do you think the protests were about the video or not? the other 21 countries about that? >> greg: it's us blaming the video. >> bob:be maybe. >> andrea: if you want to get to egypt why would the muslim brotherhood gen up the video on the embassy? we don't talk about that a lot. it's going great in egypt, right, bob? great in egypt. >> bob: you have no evidence they ginned that up. ridiculous. >> eric: night of the attack i went to youtube to check it out. there were 3,000 views of that. there were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point. >> bob: but it was broadcast -- >> dana: blame for the speech -- when you are a cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they said is that ambassador rice didn't have anything to do with benghazi. then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? what were -- none of this make sense. believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on tv. it notice that none of the men
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stuck up for her. where is clapper? donilon? they let her, let her blame the video and they ruined her reputation. it blame the men. >> bob: they hung her out to try because nobody else would do it. hillary clinton wouldn't do it after colin powell's experience -- >> andrea: already hung her out to die. two female human shields. one is hillary clinton and other is susan rice. >> bob: don't accuse susan rice being part of a conspiracy. she was given talking points to say. >> dana: let me tell you something as spokesperson. you have an obligation to say are you correct? ask the next question and think it through. you have a responsibility for your words. you have can't just blame that somebody else told me to say it. >> eric: can i give >> you example? a lot of time they write something for you in the script, camera three, right? sometimes you say i'm not going to say that. >> greg: that is all the time. >> bob: if you are her, why would you go out anyway after colin powell's experience? >> dana: always bring it
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back. >> andrea: the administration refuses to acknowledge terror when it happens. it's always a lone wolf or isolated incident or video. >> bob: series of weapons of mass destruction. that got us in a war. >> greg: on that note -- >> dana: i knew at some point deep in their hearts they really do believe it's president bush's fault. >> greg: coming up, chris christie used to be funny. but now is he becoming a jokebe? we'll take a look at the governor's actions lately next on "the five." if you leave now, dana will strangle a goldfish. ♪ ♪ i was having trouble getting out of bed in the morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little more sore. and by the time i get up in the morning, i feel great! if you have back pain, toss and turn at night or wake up tired with no energy, the sleep number
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>> greg: it is not right. >> dana: make sure that lid is on. >> bob: are we on now? >> greg: we are. >> bob: for any of you who might not have seen the show on friday you missed a spectacular performance by yours truly. it had a twinkie breakdown. we have a clip of what happened. look at this while greg makes up whatever he is making up. >> hostess brand is the maker of twinkie. wonwonder burgers. >> greg: wonder boogers? >> bob: sorry, folks. >> greg: ve lost this segment. [ laughter ] we have lost this segment. >> bob: all right, look. there are certain things once in a while, i have been a union man all my life. once in a while vu to break with your brethren over certain things. the strike has ended, twinkies. >> crying now? >> yes. it was so funny.
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>> sorry about the opening but i couldn't get through it. something hit me. >> yeah. trying to get through this. now, the good news today is that texas judge where hostess is headquartered has ordered the company and the unions to get back together to see if they can work out a deal. if not, several companies want to buy twinkies and also ho-hos, which is great. whoever does, that please. i give you great admiration an hope. what greg has decided to do here is see if he can make up a twinkie milkshake. >> greg: when i heard they were liquidating hostess i was thinking liquidating twinkies. why haven't i thought of that? like opposite of slim fast. >> dana: fat shakes. [ blending ] >> greg: this looks delicious. >> dana: i think that is good. >> greg: all right. >> dana: it looks good. >> greg: dana said she would
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be the first to try. >> dana: i didn't. >> greg: i fed this to jasper. >> bob: you just thought of this? >> greg: i thought of this when we talked about -- >> andrea: it looks delicious. uh-oh. >> greg: this is the first time there has ever been a twinkie shake. that is amazing. amazing! >> bob: eric, get some of that. is that good? >> andrea: that is really good. >> greg: it's disgusting. >> andrea: this could save twinkie. >> greg: disgusting and wonderful. i don't have the time to chew. i'm in a hurry and i want a twinkie, i will drink my twinkie. >> andrea: bob pounded it. >> greg: he drank the whole thing. >> bob: that was brilliant. >> andrea: you even have the mustache. got twinkie? >> bob: i got heat for saying there is only one better thing than twinkies and i meant to say eating ho-hoes. i hope they get together.
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unions and the hostess. >> andrea: eating ho-hos? you would say that. wouldn't you? >> bob: listen, let's get serious. is there any chance -- [ laughter ] do you think the unions will get together with the company? >> eric: i think they want it to go. >> dana: one more thing. >> bob: one more -- [ laughter ] >> dana: unmore thing is up next. -- one more thing is up next. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching
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>> dana: time for one more thing. half having made a twinkie shake, bob is having a little bit of time so we will start time before bob loses it. >> eric: it would be great if he lose it on tv. >> dana: speak for yourself. >> eric: camera three, take bob. take a listen to joe biden. what is he thinking? >> so as the president up with the governor we're not going anywhere, we're not going anywhere. and you got a homeboy in the deal, who gets it. >> eric: okay. he wants to run for president in 2015. think about this. i'll keep doing this. material. >> dana: homeboy. all right. greg? >> greg: great bill schultz from "red eye" the awesome fox
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news show. hit the street to see if anybody read my book "joy of hate." >> greg has a book out in time for the holidays. he has been private about it. we thought we would hit the street the push it. is it something you would purchase for you or a loved one? >> no. >> is it something you purchase for hate ones? >> probably would. >> this guy is on the shady side. check the eyes out. >> what do you see from the eyes aside from a complete lack of soul? >> hmmm. >> i see hmmm as well. if you look at the cover, it looks like he is saying hmmmm. do it together. hmmm. >> dana: that was a great shameless plug. >> greg: nobody liked it. >> andrea: hopefully i can talk loud enough to drown out bob's burping. this past weekend my alma mater lehigh university fro went on to win!
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the mountain hawks simpleed the victory. >> dana: were they always mountain hawks? >> andrea: no. they were engineers before. that should have stayed with it. >> greg: engineers were offended. >> dana: bob, go or not go? >> bob: i'm going to pass here. >> dana: all right. i'll go. this the a segment you have been waiting for, jasper segment. not about my dog. this is about another dog. in england, u.k., anyone take camera three? jasper, in england they started the no cell transplant things and helped the paralyze dogs. miff segment doesn't matter because bob is -- my segment doesn't matter because bob is leaving the set because of the twinkie shake. i don't think a transplant will help him. he is gone. take wide shot here? we have no bob because of the twinkie shake. nice job, greg. >> greg: he wasn't supposed to drink the whole thing. that is four twinkies. you don't drink the whole shake. >> dana: that

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